Text by Julia Masi / FFanzeen, 1981
Introduction by Robert Barry Francos / FFanzeen, 2015
Images from the Internet
This interview was originally published in FFanzeen, issue #7, dated 1981. It was written by the Managing Editor of the
magazine, Julia Masi.
Part of what the Shirts so special was that they were fun. It looked like they enjoyed being on stage, and that transmitted to the audience. I only saw the Annie Golden version play once, and then saw the post-Annie band play at a reunion concert for the late Brooklyn club Zappaz, which was held at the now-also-gone L’Amours in the mid-2000s. As for Golden, I saw her perform at the Bottom Line in a nascent version of the play based on Ellie Greenwich’s music, Leader of the Pack (the Broadway version was not as personal, nor as fun). When the band reformed after Golden left, it took two singers to replace her. That tells you something. Of course, Golden went from the Shirts, to the film Hair, to a recurring role in Cheers, to where she is now, a regular on the extremely popular Netflix series Orange is the New Black, where she ironically plays someone who is mostly mute. – RBF, 2015
“Guilt through association,” states
Artie Lamonica as re reflects on why the Shirts are so often mislabelled. “We
were considered a New Wave band, but we weren’t really. It’s just a tag. We
didn’t form because New Wave was happening. We were around before the New Wave
and we’ll be around afterwards.”
Part of what the Shirts so special was that they were fun. It looked like they enjoyed being on stage, and that transmitted to the audience. I only saw the Annie Golden version play once, and then saw the post-Annie band play at a reunion concert for the late Brooklyn club Zappaz, which was held at the now-also-gone L’Amours in the mid-2000s. As for Golden, I saw her perform at the Bottom Line in a nascent version of the play based on Ellie Greenwich’s music, Leader of the Pack (the Broadway version was not as personal, nor as fun). When the band reformed after Golden left, it took two singers to replace her. That tells you something. Of course, Golden went from the Shirts, to the film Hair, to a recurring role in Cheers, to where she is now, a regular on the extremely popular Netflix series Orange is the New Black, where she ironically plays someone who is mostly mute. – RBF, 2015
“We never felt that we had certain sound,” Artie continues, “like band that have a whole album based on a sound. We always felt that we liked to do different things. We try to let everybody be artistically free, as much as possible. We don’t shun a song because it doesn’t have the Shirts’ sound. We try not to. We listen to each other. We listen to the radio, what’s on the air. We try to be as modern as possible. We started out trying to do things differently to create different types of chords and just play them. Now we’ve learned how to arrange; how to simplify our music. We created a base and now we can build. We could be just as popular in America.”
She eschews the preening role of the prima donna that so many female singers are obsessed with. “I hate that ‘Oh, is my make-up on right? Is my hair fixed?’” Although her stage personality is very feminine, she looks upon herself as a mixture of “woman, groupie, and one of the boys.”
As entertaining as their live shows
may be, the band hasn’t relied on their stage presence to get by on film. For
their most popular video, “Laugh and Walk Away,” they flew to England and
employed the talents of Brian Grant, the best television cameraman in the
country. He wrote a story that begins with Annie singing as she is wheeled into
a hospital by the band, all wearing white coasts. “We had gone to London to the
video and we were all jet-lagged, and everything. And Grant had this storyline
for us. I was standoffish, as I usually am about outsiders presenting their
ideas to the band. And when I read his outline for the song, I couldn’t believe
he had never heard us perform; yet in his outline of “Laugh and Walk Away,” he
had me playing all these different kinds of characters. Just the fact that a
lot of my physical moves have been said to be puppet-like, and he had me
playing the puppet, with strings being manipulated by business people. It’s so
funny, ‘cause I don’t drive. I’m terrified to drive. And he had this thing of
me driving, and then being terrified in the car. It was really great the way he
was naturally in tune with what we were about, never having seen us.
The latter day The Shirts |
Realizing that it takes more than a memorable video and a polished sound to make a hit single, the Shirts have left Capitol, their American record company. They are hoping to have more input on the next record they do, so that they’ll go on record sounding the same as they do at a live gig. “Our sound man’s been with us for eight years. The ultimate goal would be to have him engineer, or produce or something, because we always get compliments on our live sound. When we hear cassettes of live gigs, it always sound exactly the way we feel we sound.”
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